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#756531 - 04/28/12 07:13 AM "I Can't Afford It"........Frightening
Salmonella Offline
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"I can't afford it".

The most difficult words ever uttered by a politician.

Take a moment and watch this video.
Tony Robbins deconstructs the National Debt.

We are sooooo screwed.

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#756535 - 04/28/12 07:47 AM Re: "I Can't Afford It"........Frightening [Re: Salmonella]
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Sal, you just haven't heard the explaination why the deficit isn't a problem........Oh, neither have I.......never mind.

Maybe KK can enlighten us? I believe it was he who made that statement. KK?

KK?

(Yeah, right.)
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#756551 - 04/28/12 12:19 PM Re: "I Can't Afford It"........Frightening [Re: ParaLeaks]
Todd Offline
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Actually, I believe it was Dick Cheney who said so...and the R's ate it up as gospel when he did.

Fish on...

Todd
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#756553 - 04/28/12 12:23 PM Re: "I Can't Afford It"........Frightening [Re: Todd]
Todd Offline
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It's like most everything else the R's say or do...if Obama is for it, is doing it, or someone somewhere in the government is for it or doing it, then it is all Obama's fault, and will ruin our country.

Nevermind it's the same stuff that Reagan and both Bushes did, and that those same R's thought it was just fine then.

Fish on...

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#756558 - 04/28/12 12:47 PM Re: "I Can't Afford It"........Frightening [Re: Todd]
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How about we blame both parties and agree that there is a revenue and spending problem.
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#756559 - 04/28/12 12:49 PM Re: "I Can't Afford It"........Frightening [Re: Jerry Garcia]
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Originally Posted By: Jerry Garcia
How about we blame both parties and agree that there is a revenue and spending problem.


Common sense was thrown out the window a long time ago.
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#756577 - 04/28/12 05:31 PM Re: "I Can't Afford It"........Frightening [Re: Jerry Garcia]
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Originally Posted By: Jerry Garcia
How about we blame both parties and agree that there is a revenue and spending problem.


Bravo!
X a million.


To rob a post from another website.
This makes things much easier to comprehend for the common man...

Joe Shaefer listed the government’s balance sheet:
U.S. annual Tax Revenue: $2,170,000,000,000.
Federal Budget: $3,820,000,000,000.
New debt: $1,650,000,000,000.
National debt: $14,271,000,000,000.
Recent budget cuts: $38,500,000,000.

Remove 8 zeros and pretend it’s a household balance sheet.
Annual family income: $21,700.
Money the family spent: $38,200.
New debt on credit cards: $16,500.
Outstanding credit card balance: $142,710.
Total budget cuts to solve problem: $385.


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#756586 - 04/28/12 07:38 PM Re: "I Can't Afford It"........Frightening [Re: ]
Todd Offline
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It's ok to agree to that...so long as you admit that it wasn't a problem until Obama did it...but I will give you credit for at least not pretending that both Bushes and the conservative darling Reagan were not also doing the exact same thing...even if it is retroactive, and you weren't complaining about it ruining the country then.

Fish on...

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#756594 - 04/28/12 08:25 PM Re: "I Can't Afford It"........Frightening [Re: Todd]
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Monday I'm going to take a photo of the article titled "Obama vows to cut deficit in half in four years."

That was "Vows"......as in v o w......and it was Obama......as in pure BS
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#756616 - 04/28/12 10:07 PM Re: "I Can't Afford It"........Frightening [Re: ]
Salmo g. Offline
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Never heard the conservatives complaining about the deficit or debt until Obama became prez. Now it's his fault?

For the record I've been complaining about prez and congressional fiscal irresponsibility since 1980. That's the kinda' free spending liberal I am.

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#756617 - 04/28/12 10:09 PM Re: "I Can't Afford It"........Frightening [Re: Salmo g.]
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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Hank was against the Iraq War.

And he said so at least once.

Apparently the other spending was cool, though.






























































Until now.
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#756690 - 04/29/12 04:06 PM Re: "I Can't Afford It"........Frightening [Re: ]
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I read a couple days prior to 09/11 that the country was a few million in the black. How come in 11 years we have gone so far in the tank?

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#756718 - 04/29/12 08:14 PM Re: "I Can't Afford It"........Frightening [Re: Saundu]
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Originally Posted By: Saundu
I read a couple days prior to 09/11 that the country was a few million in the black. How come in 11 years we have gone so far in the tank?


HERE is a link
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#756892 - 04/30/12 08:19 PM Re: "I Can't Afford It"........Frightening [Re: ParaLeaks]
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Check the facts about the budget deficit before the Bush tax cuts:

Clinton balanced the budget in 2000
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#756991 - 05/01/12 12:19 PM Re: "I Can't Afford It"........Frightening [Re: Steelheadman]
Todd Offline
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Ask Newt...that was his doing.

The fact of the matter is that any reference to "fiscal responsibility" being tied to "Republican Party" is a gigantic myth...a myth of such gigantic proportions as to be even more laughable than "Saddam has WMD's" or "Romney has convictions"...

Fish on...

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#757001 - 05/01/12 01:07 PM Re: "I Can't Afford It"........Frightening [Re: Saundu]
AP a.k.a. Kaiser D Offline
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Originally Posted By: Saundu
I read a couple days prior to 09/11 that the country was a few million in the black. How come in 11 years we have gone so far in the tank?


Because we pussed out and the majority of the country was asscurred chitless. We spent (and continue to spend) vast amounts of money to "protect" ourselves while probably not stopping much. TSA and defense contract spending are a good place to start. Might want to check out those wars too...

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#757003 - 05/01/12 01:10 PM Re: "I Can't Afford It"........Frightening [Re: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D]
Todd Offline
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The only thing the Military/Industrial Complex needs to protect itself from is a secure citizenry...they not only thrive on, but create themselves an air of insecurity and fear that most people are willing to pay to have assagued, pay with money and civil rights, even when it is illusory.

You are no safer now than you were before 9/11, only a lot poorer, and more scared.

Fish on...

Todd
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#757117 - 05/01/12 09:48 PM Re: "I Can't Afford It"........Frightening [Re: Todd]
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So what did you think of the original link?
Are we sitting cozy?

Getting $.60 on every dollar borrowed is OK with you?

Let me guess......

"No, it's not OK. Never said it was, you mental midget." smile

OK, allow me to rephrase.....

Do you think the Democratic Party will solve the deficit problem?
Or do you think you have the answer to solving our dilemma?

Or shall we just pretend that it's not important?
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#757142 - 05/01/12 10:46 PM Re: "I Can't Afford It"........Frightening [Re: ParaLeaks]
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I'm not pretending it's not important...but I didn't wait until there was a Democrat in office to think it was...I thought it was important while Bush was running it up, Cheney was telling us it didn't matter, and guys like you were right here on PP quoting Cheney and telling us that we hated 'Merica.

Fish on...

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#757147 - 05/01/12 10:49 PM Re: "I Can't Afford It"........Frightening [Re: ]
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Hank, you're on a roll.

Fish on...

Todd
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#757161 - 05/01/12 11:17 PM Re: "I Can't Afford It"........Frightening [Re: Todd]
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Quote:
guys like you were right here on PP quoting Cheney and telling us that we hated 'Merica.


guys "like" me?

care to re-phrase?
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#757167 - 05/01/12 11:37 PM Re: "I Can't Afford It"........Frightening [Re: ParaLeaks]
Todd Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
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Yeah, right wingers who ate everything up that Bush/Cheney did...

More clear?

wink

Fish on...

Todd
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#757171 - 05/01/12 11:40 PM Re: "I Can't Afford It"........Frightening [Re: Todd]
Todd Offline
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P.S. If I missed the part where you were against the Bush tax cuts and two unfunded wars, then I apologize...
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#757181 - 05/02/12 12:09 AM Re: "I Can't Afford It"........Frightening [Re: Todd]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 16958
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
Originally Posted By: slab
Do you think the Democratic Party will solve the deficit problem?


No.

Do you think the Republican Party will solve the deficit problem?

Again, no.



Hope this helps.
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#757212 - 05/02/12 09:20 AM Re: "I Can't Afford It"........Frightening [Re: ]
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Dan's point is well taken......and he didn't miss my point...It's a common problem of both parties. Don't forget that when the Dem's had it ALL their way (control of both houses and the Presidency) nothing got accomplished......now again it is the Right's blame...... too funny. It's a lame song, no matter how loud and long you sing it.

There's just too many Federal teat-suckers bellied up to the trough....and the Libs would add more.

And hopefully no one thinks our spending problem is going to get any better in any election year.....no chance.....no chance at all.

zip, zero, nada

We be fuuuuked.
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#757261 - 05/02/12 01:22 PM Re: "I Can't Afford It"........Frightening [Re: ParaLeaks]
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Slab posted: "We be fuuuuked."

Slab finally got something right. Maybe even KK will give him props for that.

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#757363 - 05/02/12 05:21 PM Re: "I Can't Afford It"........Frightening [Re: ]
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+1............
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